Fire and Ice Twilight Fan Forum

Whylime wrote:Actually I agree with you that Bella was whiny and self absorbed, and that Edward was controlling. Doon't quite agree on the Jacob bit, but that could just be my biased side talking there. XD

Although I think Bella was less whiny in Eclipse than she was in New Moon. Dang, I just wanted to slap her in that book.

I did like the bit where Rosalie sat and talked with Bella in Eclipse. I do feel sorry for her on that. I'd hate to never be able to have kids and all that.

*comes out of hiding* Really? Bella was being such a victim I wanted to hit her. Oh it's so hard I'm in love with two men, poor me. The newborn's are attacking Forks, it's all my fault. blah, blah. Not to mention the fact she's perfectly happy to be a freakin' vampire but she doesn't want to marry Edward. Is she out of her mind!

Ahh the whole fear of matrimony was SO stupidly explained.

I mean, Steph set up the "I cannot live without him, I must always hold onto him" thing at the end of New Moon, but Bella doesn't jump at the chance to take the ONE PERMANENT STEP and marry him?!

STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID

I mean, she's all worried he'll leave again, and guess what honey, if ya marry him, he won't leave! He's a good sort like that!

Gah! I wanted to smack her!

There were other things Steph could have put in the way to delay it.. like say the Jake thing, full stop! But noooo we got crappy reasons about marriage.

BAH!

I know. It's almost a pathetic obsession of how much she needs Edward to function, rather than love. She certainly was curious about marriage for vampires in Twilight.

Even if he's away for an afternoon she just about has a panic attack. Sheesh be an independent women Bella.

i thought that after she asked edward about marriage in twilight that that's where she wanted to head. but nooooo she doesn't want to get married for crazy, stupid, oh did i say STUPID reasons.

Give me edward if you don't want to get married so much!!!

i turned after eclipse. i stepped from the realm of team edward to team jacob (i mean, i don't hate edward, BUT GOD HE CAN BE A CHEESY PONCE SOMETIMES).

i want jacob. for myself. so bad. Gah.

I really don't hold all Bella's...whining and whatnot against her, because I could sit here going MY GOD, SHE'S AN IDIOT, but I know I'd probably do the same thing.

Whylime wrote:I did like the bit where Rosalie sat and talked with Bella in Eclipse. I do feel sorry for her on that. I'd hate to never be able to have kids and all that.

I loved that part...Rosalie's talk with Bella was the part when I realised that she didn't really hate Bella, She was more frustrated with her because Bella is so eager and willing to give up her family, her friends, the chance to have children. Everything that Rosalie would kill to have. Her vanity stops her from seeing that just because a normal life and a normal family is what she wants doesn't nessesarily mean it's a top priority of Bella's

you're right Briq, i'd probably do the same thing if it was me walking in her shoes.

her whining is valid. sometimes.

Bella's whining in Eclipse was annoying, but nowhere near as bad as New Moon. I just wanted to slap her and tell her to stop being so damn petty!
The only thing that i got really mad at her for in Eclipse was when she kissed Jacob before the fight. I was reading that chapter last night and i wanted to punch something. She got engaged the night before, and there she goes making out with other guys already. Her selfishness really annoyed me.
Jacob was manipulative and childish and Edward was being way too overcontrolling.

I didnt really like Eclipse as much. Dont get me wrong, it was still really good, but the more negative aspects of the characters seemed to come out in it.

Compromise wrote:Bella's whining in Eclipse was annoying, but nowhere near as bad as New Moon. I just wanted to slap her and tell her to stop being so damn petty!
The only thing that i got really mad at her for in Eclipse was when she kissed Jacob before the fight. I was reading that chapter last night and i wanted to punch something. She got engaged the night before, and there she goes making out with other guys already. Her selfishness really annoyed me.
Jacob was manipulative and childish and Edward was being way too overcontrolling.

I didnt really like Eclipse as much. Dont get me wrong, it was still really good, but the more negative aspects of the characters seemed to come out in it.

bella's selfishness annoys me to no end.